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he was not john paul ii. john paul was such an immense figure. is that a fair point mr. moody is making? >> well, i think it is a fair point. i have nothing but the greatest admiration for john, and i think pope benedict knew that. what comes through about pope benedict is the humility in one interview he gave, long book interview, where he mentioned the possibility of resigning but he said i'm convinced there are great popes and small popes, and he was talking about john paul ii as a great pope, and himself as small pope, which is also strange because he is obviously a great intellectual. but he knew he didn't have either the energy or, if you will, the pizazz of john paul ii, the media satisfy iy. but what he wad was very genuine. he is a month in love with god, and a very humble one. i noticed on the trip to the u.s., and you see the stadium filled, and john paul would enjoy those as much as an actor enjoys a big crowd, and benedict was a little bit almost embarrassed. but there was something beautiful and endear about that. >> there were missteps and miscues along th
he was not john paul ii. john paul was such an immense figure. is that a fair point mr. moody is making? >> well, i think it is a fair point. i have nothing but the greatest admiration for john, and i think pope benedict knew that. what comes through about pope benedict is the humility in one interview he gave, long book interview, where he mentioned the possibility of resigning but he said i'm convinced there are great popes and small popes, and he was talking about john paul ii as a...
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there was nothing like the kind of crowds we thought we saw when pope john paul died. this pope is deeply loved by the very sincere and devoted and devout roman catholics but he is considered more of an intellectual and somebody who is never emotional like john paul the ii. still heartfelt by his devotees. >> all the cardinals are there. >> they are pretty much all here and they have had the time to gather because of his resignation which was announced a couple of weeks ago. the first formal meeting will happen on monday. only then will they decide what day to establish the conclaf and then they will start their secret deliberations. we are told around the 9th, 10th, 11th of march. >> all week we have been focusing on the controversy in cardinal mahoney's role in electing of the new pope. he has been stripped after thousands of pages revealed his role in shielding priests from justice. the nauseating story from 360's gary tuckman. >> reporter: the first time is when he helped bring them to the ashch diocese of los angeles. the ashch bishop of mexico city wanted him gon
there was nothing like the kind of crowds we thought we saw when pope john paul died. this pope is deeply loved by the very sincere and devoted and devout roman catholics but he is considered more of an intellectual and somebody who is never emotional like john paul the ii. still heartfelt by his devotees. >> all the cardinals are there. >> they are pretty much all here and they have had the time to gather because of his resignation which was announced a couple of weeks ago. the...
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he says ratsinger did not act until receiving order from pope john paul ii. >> he was not able to do much. john paul ii tended to be more skeptical about all accusations of sex abuse he says when benedict was elected in 2005, he was more willing to take action against these priests and make it more public. lennon arks bused when he was 13 says he popes a -- hopes a new pope will bring accountability to the catholic church. >> i can only hope it's an opportunity for the church to demonstrate a moral authority as open qlos yosed to being in the done jen of it's vile corruption that, i believe sit now. >> and by the way this cost the catholic church more than $2 billion in settlements. >> thank you very much. book makers are already putting odds on the next pope with cardinals from gauna, nigeria and canada from early favorites. canadian cardinal has 7-2 odds. and nigerian cardinal has nine to two odds. yim hill has a similar split. >> one clergiman plans on voting for the next pope though he is banned from public duties. cardinal roger mahony used to have the archdiocese of los angeles
he says ratsinger did not act until receiving order from pope john paul ii. >> he was not able to do much. john paul ii tended to be more skeptical about all accusations of sex abuse he says when benedict was elected in 2005, he was more willing to take action against these priests and make it more public. lennon arks bused when he was 13 says he popes a -- hopes a new pope will bring accountability to the catholic church. >> i can only hope it's an opportunity for the church to...
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paul 7. it will be about who they want to see in that position. they will crumbly be very similar to the ideas. tavis: this is a very big issue, but because this program is viewed nationally and internationally, for that matter, and because the pope is an international icon, this local story has become a national story because of the implications. i had no idea that cardinal mahony, who was in charge of the l.a. archdioceses, that cardinal, who is no longer in that position, but apparently still retains a vote for the next pope, so, ok. i get the part that once a cardinal, you still get a chance to vote for the next pope. i get back. what was stunning to me is that he gets to retain that vote when he is under a cloud of suspicion for payoffs and other stuff, allegedly, when he was in charge of the archdiocese's around the sex scandal issue, and stuff is coming out more and more every day about what he knew and what he did and what they try to hide, etc., etc., and with all respect to that car
paul 7. it will be about who they want to see in that position. they will crumbly be very similar to the ideas. tavis: this is a very big issue, but because this program is viewed nationally and internationally, for that matter, and because the pope is an international icon, this local story has become a national story because of the implications. i had no idea that cardinal mahony, who was in charge of the l.a. archdioceses, that cardinal, who is no longer in that position, but apparently...
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they waited for john, paul, george, and ringo to arrive and then later, there was a performance right here in washington, d.c. >>> lawmakers in britain have passed a bill requiring every dog owner to microchip their pet. the move is designed to cut down on the more than 100,000 dogs that are lost or dumped in the u.k. every year. >> reporter: judy maguire has a tight grip on her west highland terrier. >> she's pretty g. she stays by -- pretty good. she stays by. >> reporter: but if she did run off, there's a good chance her owner would find her because she has a microchip inside her. lawmakers in england are now requiring all dogs to be fitted with a chip that's coded with their owner's details. >> i want this to have a positive impact. there are 110,000 dogs get lost every year or get dumped. only about half of them get back to their original owners. >> reporter: the mandate goes into effect in three years. owners who don't comply could be slapped with an $800 fine. many animal shelters in england will put the chip in for free. it's tiny, just the size of a grain of rice, and it's pl
they waited for john, paul, george, and ringo to arrive and then later, there was a performance right here in washington, d.c. >>> lawmakers in britain have passed a bill requiring every dog owner to microchip their pet. the move is designed to cut down on the more than 100,000 dogs that are lost or dumped in the u.k. every year. >> reporter: judy maguire has a tight grip on her west highland terrier. >> she's pretty g. she stays by -- pretty good. she stays by. >>...
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martha: at that time obviously the legacy of sphoap john paul was so -- the legacy of pope john paul was so huge. some those would be a transitional pope before the next person was ready to take over. we have a lot to go over with all of this in the course of the next couple hours. in the meantime we want to bring you this breaking news and fill you in on this situation unfolding in a courthouse in wilmington, delaware where we just heard shots have been fired. police are confirming there are several injuries in this case. the building is on lockdown. some people are still inside that building. we have a crew en route there. we'll bring you the latest information as soon as it becomes available. another day, another shooting story. the los angeles police department is offering a $1 million reward for information that would lead to the capture of a former police officer. christopher dorner accused of murdering three people in a rampage last week and included in those deaths is a police officer. here is video that shows dorner during this police training. we have not seen much of this
martha: at that time obviously the legacy of sphoap john paul was so -- the legacy of pope john paul was so huge. some those would be a transitional pope before the next person was ready to take over. we have a lot to go over with all of this in the course of the next couple hours. in the meantime we want to bring you this breaking news and fill you in on this situation unfolding in a courthouse in wilmington, delaware where we just heard shots have been fired. police are confirming there are...
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the election of john paul roim -- i overnight. he was prayerful and they picked him almost automatically and stame with pope john paul ii. you - pope benedict. i don't think we can tell at this point. >> monsingor, always good to see you and we'll pull for a longhornser or north american as you say. >> thank you, eric. >> libyans, thousands of therm marking the uprising that toppled gad gad. many are sporting flaggings on their cars and balloons and featuring the national colors. the new leader calling for unity in the nation. but the new libyan central government has little authority beyond the capitol of tripoli. the country is fractured. there are militia. >> explosion in baghdad this morning. 28 people were killed and dozens more wounded . here you can see burned out hulkings was -- buildings and cars. sunday is the beginning of the work day there. >> the national gun debate rages on and new quis of a potential fall out. they are halting production in response to sweeping gun laws. adam houseley is following this from los ange
the election of john paul roim -- i overnight. he was prayerful and they picked him almost automatically and stame with pope john paul ii. you - pope benedict. i don't think we can tell at this point. >> monsingor, always good to see you and we'll pull for a longhornser or north american as you say. >> thank you, eric. >> libyans, thousands of therm marking the uprising that toppled gad gad. many are sporting flaggings on their cars and balloons and featuring the national...
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the same situation in benedict was elected pontiff in 2005 after the death of pope john paul the second. >> many people are inside and went to bed last night and the pope was still there later in the wake up this morning and realize the clock is ticking on them. he only has a couple of weeks left on the job. joining me is sister maggie, you attend mass here. your thoughts? this is not happen in 600 years. you wake up this morning and you hear he is stepping down, where you thinking? >> i was shocked, i have to admit. this was the first time this is happened in over 600 years like you said. i also admire the man because he is being honest with himself and with the world. he has tremendous responsibility and realizes that physically he can no longer do it. someone else can do it in his place. >> do you think the job calls for a younger man out? he is saying this is a new world we live and a technologically advanced age. >> not necessarily aids. if a person is fairly healthy both mentally and physically i don't think it really matters. what with a jet comes responsibility and wisdom. --age
the same situation in benedict was elected pontiff in 2005 after the death of pope john paul the second. >> many people are inside and went to bed last night and the pope was still there later in the wake up this morning and realize the clock is ticking on them. he only has a couple of weeks left on the job. joining me is sister maggie, you attend mass here. your thoughts? this is not happen in 600 years. you wake up this morning and you hear he is stepping down, where you thinking?...
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paul ii. he was the oldest person to become pontiff in 275 years. benedict xvi was a conservative pope, he strongly opposed to birth control, but he embraced new forms of communication and joined twitter last year. pope benedict faced a string of challenges during his term from sexual abuse scandals involving the members of the clergy to an investigation into money laundering in vatican city. a court convicted his former butler last year of stealing and leaking classified documents that pointed to corruption in the vatican. the pope pardoned him over christmas. it's rare for a pope to resign. pope benedict is the first to quit in nearly 600 years. senior members of the catholic church will now start planning their conclave, the meeting they hold to choose a successor. >>> police in the united states are investigating yet another case of gun violence. pop ben fikt benedict xvi will be one of the most religious thinkers of the age. >> the president says he has warm memories. the meeting drew att
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the challenges of pope john paul's suffering. and the way that perhaps the church might have struggled around him because of his own limitations. i think it's been visible to see the pope's weakness has been more and more evident when you see him at mass, at christmas masses this past christmas and some of the other major events, he sounded weaker and weaker. he's moving more and more frailly. i think it's a real sign of courage that he recognizes that the job is bigger than he is. as for the timing, this was all his own discernment and his own heart. as john allen just said, no one saw this coming. >> woodruff: sister christine, what about you? how did you read this given how unprecedented it is? >> well, i think it is very unprecedented. i agree with the professor. i think that... i don't know how he could have lived through the waning days of pope john paul ii's papacy and not been aware of how difficult it would be to continue vatican business. so we give pope benedict a lot of credit for the courage of stepping down. the oth
the challenges of pope john paul's suffering. and the way that perhaps the church might have struggled around him because of his own limitations. i think it's been visible to see the pope's weakness has been more and more evident when you see him at mass, at christmas masses this past christmas and some of the other major events, he sounded weaker and weaker. he's moving more and more frailly. i think it's a real sign of courage that he recognizes that the job is bigger than he is. as for the...
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ratzinger, was very keenly aware of what happened to pope john paul ii. he talked to people about how his demise seemed somewhat of a dishonorable end to his papacy. he had in his mind already what type of glorious exit, to use the phrase, he may want in store for him. let's get some perspective as to what is coming out of the vatican as to why this is happening, what it means. john allen, our senior vatican analyst, joins us now. what do we know, john? >> reporter: what we know is that we are living through a day of enormous shock here in rome. not so much the pope benedict xvi chose to resign. he signaled two years ago that he would be open to doing that, but the fact that we had absolutely no indication this was coming today. precisely because of that, therefore, there are some enormous unanswered questions about how all of this is going to play out. i suppose the biggest questions would be, "a," what will the role of a retired pope be? will he continue to play any kind of public role? will he continue to exercise any influence on the future direction
ratzinger, was very keenly aware of what happened to pope john paul ii. he talked to people about how his demise seemed somewhat of a dishonorable end to his papacy. he had in his mind already what type of glorious exit, to use the phrase, he may want in store for him. let's get some perspective as to what is coming out of the vatican as to why this is happening, what it means. john allen, our senior vatican analyst, joins us now. what do we know, john? >> reporter: what we know is that...
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we know that john paul greatly embraced young people. it was a joy for many to see this pope go on twitter of all things and actually have a twitter account as incredible as that is. when you think about that he's 85 years old. but if we're to look at the legacy and relates to the next pope, how would you explain that or how do you see that? >> the last two popes that we have had have been intellectuals. they have come from academic backgrounds. they were both also bishops but, you know, they were people very comfortable in an academic scholarly setting. the cardinals may look for someone else. someone who's a manager, someone who's a diplomat. you know, the last conclave they looked around the room and they elected the smartest man in the room and the last two conclaves. in the next conclave, they may be looking for something else. as george mentioned, they may be looking for someone to reform the curia. that's someone who knows something about management. >> father, thank you so much for your time. george, always a pleasure to hear you
we know that john paul greatly embraced young people. it was a joy for many to see this pope go on twitter of all things and actually have a twitter account as incredible as that is. when you think about that he's 85 years old. but if we're to look at the legacy and relates to the next pope, how would you explain that or how do you see that? >> the last two popes that we have had have been intellectuals. they have come from academic backgrounds. they were both also bishops but, you know,...
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paul ii. >> reporter: there are several candidates but none considered a front-runner. cbs news, vatican city. >>> there's a $1 million bounty on the head of christopher dorner, the fugitive ex-cop charged with murdering a california policeman. dorner accused in a deadly revenge vendetta against other officers is a target of a massive search. the search has been focused on the mountains about 80 miles east of los angeles. court papers reveal authorities now believe dorner may have fled to mexico and may have had help doing so. >>> two reputed chicago gang members have been charged in the shooting death of hadiya pan pendleton who died days after the inauguration. 18-year-old michael ward and 20-year-old kenneth williams said pendleton was not the intended target. they thought they were firing on a rival gang. pendleton's parents will attend the state of the union address tonight. >>> coming up in the morning news, stranded ship. thousands of passengers on a carnival cruise face deteriorating conditions after their ship becomes disabled. this is the "cbs morning news." m
paul ii. >> reporter: there are several candidates but none considered a front-runner. cbs news, vatican city. >>> there's a $1 million bounty on the head of christopher dorner, the fugitive ex-cop charged with murdering a california policeman. dorner accused in a deadly revenge vendetta against other officers is a target of a massive search. the search has been focused on the mountains about 80 miles east of los angeles. court papers reveal authorities now believe dorner may...
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pope benedict had big shoes to fill in 2005 when cardinals chose him to succeed john paul ii. one of his biggest tasks was responding to the priest sexual abuse scandal. >> indeed, i am deeply sorry. >> reporter: pope benedict issued an apology to victims and said the church made serious mistakes. today the pontiff called his choice reresign "a decision of great importance for the life of the church" and said he will dedicate the rest of his life to prayer. contend, to replace him include the archbishops of vienna and milan, cardinal timothy dolan of new york is a long shot. >> what happens next at the vatican? >> reporter: what happens next is that the vatican will announce a date for the conclave which is when the world's voting cardinals will come to rome to vote for the next pope. in the meantime, the pope says he will continue to work doing what he normally does. >> anna matranga live at the vatican, thank you so much. >>> and the pope's decision is drawing varied reactions from catholics here in san francisco. some are concerned about the timing while others are talking
pope benedict had big shoes to fill in 2005 when cardinals chose him to succeed john paul ii. one of his biggest tasks was responding to the priest sexual abuse scandal. >> indeed, i am deeply sorry. >> reporter: pope benedict issued an apology to victims and said the church made serious mistakes. today the pontiff called his choice reresign "a decision of great importance for the life of the church" and said he will dedicate the rest of his life to prayer. contend, to...
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i know john paul ii, whom we knew quite well, went through a lot more ordeals and i think more health problems than pope benedict, but i don't -- i'm not in a position to criticize. i don't know what his status of health is. >> but if an american president retired on the grounds of exhaustion, they would be ridiculed, wouldn't it? >> i think it wasn't just exhaustion, but he wasn't able to handle the mental challenges to handle his job. it's up to him to make a decision. not been done much in the past. >> a lot of people when i said i was interviewing you. >> yes. >> said to me, as long as last time, said he's the greatest post president america has ever had. is that compliment or a veiled insult? >> i take it as a compliment. my wife would take it maybe as a veiled insult. we did a lot of good things when we brought peace to egypt. we formed an alliance with china after 35 years, we told the truth, we kept our country at peace for four years, which is a rare thing. >> incredibly rare. >> i think we -- peace and human rights. >> has the role of president changed dramatically do you th
i know john paul ii, whom we knew quite well, went through a lot more ordeals and i think more health problems than pope benedict, but i don't -- i'm not in a position to criticize. i don't know what his status of health is. >> but if an american president retired on the grounds of exhaustion, they would be ridiculed, wouldn't it? >> i think it wasn't just exhaustion, but he wasn't able to handle the mental challenges to handle his job. it's up to him to make a decision. not been...
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. >> reporter: as a cardinal, joseph ratzinger was known as john paul ii's enforcer of religious doctrine. he did not like answering questions. here's abc's brian ross asking him about a sexual abuse case in 2002. >> reporter: the question was -- >> come to me when the moment is given. but not yet. >> reporter: in his almost eight-year-olds as pope, he would sometimes play the piano. he always wore his prada-style red shoes. but his passion was preaching the gospel. he's never enjoyed being an administrator and he paid a price for that. his papacy will be remembered for its scandals. those endless sexual abuse coverups that cost more than $3 billion to settle. a string of financial scandals. benedict tried and failed to clean up corruption. and the notorious vatileaks scandal, with daily exposes in italian newspapers, a vatican back-stabbing in intrigue. he may have been the first pope to tweet, but as the leader, he tried to hold back the forces of modernity, refusing to expand the role of women. now, though, he is accepting the reality of the modern world. and the catholic church enters
. >> reporter: as a cardinal, joseph ratzinger was known as john paul ii's enforcer of religious doctrine. he did not like answering questions. here's abc's brian ross asking him about a sexual abuse case in 2002. >> reporter: the question was -- >> come to me when the moment is given. but not yet. >> reporter: in his almost eight-year-olds as pope, he would sometimes play the piano. he always wore his prada-style red shoes. but his passion was preaching the gospel. he's...
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paul ii. >> reporter: in the murky world of vatican politics no clear front-winner to replace benedict has emerged. a church which has come to see its future more and more in the developing world will have to decide whether its next leader should be from there. cardinal peter turkson of ghana is a campaigner for social reform and is often cited as the leading african candidate. but the 64-year-old has already stumbled on the issue of the church's relations with islam and is seen as a risky choice. the highest profile potential candidate from latin america may be the 63-year-old archbishop of sao paolo brazil cardinal odilio pedro scherer but the church has yet to demonstrate it's ready for a south american pope and he's thought to be a long shot. there are long odds as well for cardinal timothy dolan archbishop of new york. but any american candidate would have to overcome the church's traditional reluctance to elect a superpower pope. if the church reverts to an italian, cardinal anglo scola 71-year-old archbishop of milan is a popular figure, but the choice will likely have to do mor
paul ii. >> reporter: in the murky world of vatican politics no clear front-winner to replace benedict has emerged. a church which has come to see its future more and more in the developing world will have to decide whether its next leader should be from there. cardinal peter turkson of ghana is a campaigner for social reform and is often cited as the leading african candidate. but the 64-year-old has already stumbled on the issue of the church's relations with islam and is seen as a...
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whether it's this one, john paul ii or the next pope not everything he says is infallible. there is a hierarchy of truth. when it comes to more what is more authoritative and less authoritative and not everything is weighed equally. >> cenk: thank you for not giving me a yes or no. powerful stories to tell, and we appreciate hearing from both of you. >> thanks. >> thanks. >> cenk: now when we come back, well we got good news on military benefits. it turns out same-sex couples will be getting some. is it too late for some couples? and how much of those benefits will they actually be receiving. we'll tell you a story that is powerful. >> she would not be able to coordinate because of the difference of marriage act. she would be recognized as a friend. cheap is good. and sushi, good. but cheap sushi, not so good. it's like that super-low rate on not enough car insurance. pretty sketchy. ♪ ♪ and then there are the good decisions. like esurance. their coverage counselor tool helps you choose the right coverage for you at a great price. [ stomach growls ] without feeling quea
whether it's this one, john paul ii or the next pope not everything he says is infallible. there is a hierarchy of truth. when it comes to more what is more authoritative and less authoritative and not everything is weighed equally. >> cenk: thank you for not giving me a yes or no. powerful stories to tell, and we appreciate hearing from both of you. >> thanks. >> thanks. >> cenk: now when we come back, well we got good news on military benefits. it turns out same-sex...
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. >> seeing a german succeed pope john paul ii was a victory for our country. in benedick's ministry, they combine high philosophical teaching with a straight forward manner of speaking and humanitarian kindness. chancellor merkel also commented on benedict's decision expressing understanding or his motivations. she praised him as saying that, as pope, he committed himself to interfaith dialogue. >> restrengthen the ties to the eastern orthodox churches. he reached out to jews and muslims. . xvi is and will remain one of the greatest religious figures of our time. >> i cannot imagine this. a pope is elected to serve until the end of his life. it is a decision that will perhaps make room for younger generation to take office. >> for the most part, his move received strong support from the german capital. >> for more, we're joined now by our religious affairs correspondent. john, you have and our correspondent during the entire time of his role. did the news, as a surprise? >> not entirely, sabrina. 10 years ago, he said in public that he thought it was appropria
. >> seeing a german succeed pope john paul ii was a victory for our country. in benedick's ministry, they combine high philosophical teaching with a straight forward manner of speaking and humanitarian kindness. chancellor merkel also commented on benedict's decision expressing understanding or his motivations. she praised him as saying that, as pope, he committed himself to interfaith dialogue. >> restrengthen the ties to the eastern orthodox churches. he reached out to jews and...
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pope john paul ii was 84 when he died. wlerned after he died he considered twice resigning because of his ill health. this sets up a political process with the conclave electing the next pope. dan harris joining us on this discussion. it was a quick process to anoint pope benedict. how does the process work? >> this is a fascinating, intricate, ancient process. a brief look at how it works. take a look. for the past 10 year, papal elections have been held in the vatican's sistine chapel. they're totally cut off from the outside world. all banned. once the election commence, they'll sleep and eat in the santa marta house in private rooms, each with a bathroom. about 70 people are awe loied in besides the cardinals. who can vote for the pope? usually those under the age of 80 at the time of the pope's death. so at this time benedict is still alive. will he be part of it or will his age keep him out? any catholic male, not married, is eligible. for more than 1,000 year, it's almost always been a cardinal. the ballots are secr
pope john paul ii was 84 when he died. wlerned after he died he considered twice resigning because of his ill health. this sets up a political process with the conclave electing the next pope. dan harris joining us on this discussion. it was a quick process to anoint pope benedict. how does the process work? >> this is a fascinating, intricate, ancient process. a brief look at how it works. take a look. for the past 10 year, papal elections have been held in the vatican's sistine chapel....
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anderson, there was nothing like the crowds we thought we saw when pope john paul died and then when the next conclave elected pope benedict xvi. this pope is deeply loved by the very sincere and devoted and devout roman catholics, but he's considered more of a professor, more of a theologian, more of an intellectual, someone who was more of an intellectual than pope john paul. >> any idea when the conclave will begin to select the new pope? they're all there. >> reporter: they are pretty much all here, and they had a time to gather at his resignation, which was announced a couple weeks ago. they're not all here yet, and we understand that the first formal meeting of all the cardinals will happen on monday, and only then will they decide what date to actually establish the first day of the conclave, and at that point those cardinals who are eligible to vote will start their secret deliberations. we're not sure when. we're told somewhere potentially around the 9th, 10th, 11th of march. >> christiane, i appreciate it. >>> he's been stripped of public duties after thousands of pages, th
anderson, there was nothing like the crowds we thought we saw when pope john paul died and then when the next conclave elected pope benedict xvi. this pope is deeply loved by the very sincere and devoted and devout roman catholics, but he's considered more of a professor, more of a theologian, more of an intellectual, someone who was more of an intellectual than pope john paul. >> any idea when the conclave will begin to select the new pope? they're all there. >> reporter: they are...
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paul. >> pope john paul ii. >> yes, of course. the long twilight of john paul, his struggle with age and parkinson's disease, lingering effect of the 1981 assassination attempt are all played out in full public view, and john paul decided to use his illness and decline in a way as a teaching moment, that -- to show the world you can still be of value, still play an important role while being ill, suffering, and so on. that was john paul's particular way of handling the twilight of his life. benedict xvi, while i think certainly ahe certainly admiring john paul, thinks that's not the path that every pope takes. some of the difficulties the vatican faced in recent years. internal disarray relating to the leaked crisis. the damage imposed upon the public image of the church by the sex abuse scandals and so on, it's clear that that has taken a toll on benedict xvi, he has struggled with that personally and it may well be that the people who have seen the cumulative effect of that, that the church needs a new lease on life and a fresh
paul. >> pope john paul ii. >> yes, of course. the long twilight of john paul, his struggle with age and parkinson's disease, lingering effect of the 1981 assassination attempt are all played out in full public view, and john paul decided to use his illness and decline in a way as a teaching moment, that -- to show the world you can still be of value, still play an important role while being ill, suffering, and so on. that was john paul's particular way of handling the twilight of...
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paul ii's ilniz. and i think it's much more important to have a vital individual there to carry on as pope, so i think the pope made what i think will now be a precedent-setting decision. >> i think there's no doubt in that. with the advances in medical technology, if they could continue to essentially live out their lives as pope. so somebody we'll be discussing in the coming days. i want to switch gears and talk about the state of the union. glen rush from politico writing that it will be less of a olive branch. if that's the strategy, what do you think of it? do you think it's the time what most americans seen -- the time is right for the president to push hard? >> well, you know, they always ask the question, the state of the union is, fill in the blank. i think the state of the union is strong, but the state of economy is weak. we have too many people looking for jobs and too many people who have given up looking for jobs. he never menned -- so let's get together, put people back to work. he can
paul ii's ilniz. and i think it's much more important to have a vital individual there to carry on as pope, so i think the pope made what i think will now be a precedent-setting decision. >> i think there's no doubt in that. with the advances in medical technology, if they could continue to essentially live out their lives as pope. so somebody we'll be discussing in the coming days. i want to switch gears and talk about the state of the union. glen rush from politico writing that it will...
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paul ii. white smoke coming 24 hours after the voting began signaling the start of pope benedict's eight years heading the church. today we went down where it all happened down in vatican city. >> as of february 28 the papal apartment will be vacant and as the rules dictate, they will have 15-20 days to bring all the cardinals around the world here, under the age of 80. they will lock themselves in the sistine chapel and begin the process. there will be secret ballots, after each ballot paper slips will be burned. white smoke will arise when they have news of great joy. >> we have a pope. that announcement will come right there from the balcony just as it did in this very spot eight years ago. >> shep: we don't know when it will happen but we'll get a better idea tomorrow. changing the face of catholicism for many years to come. with us is joan lewis, she worked at the vatican for information services 34 years. >> in rome. >> shep: you never saw? >> i never thought i would be here 27 years and
paul ii. white smoke coming 24 hours after the voting began signaling the start of pope benedict's eight years heading the church. today we went down where it all happened down in vatican city. >> as of february 28 the papal apartment will be vacant and as the rules dictate, they will have 15-20 days to bring all the cardinals around the world here, under the age of 80. they will lock themselves in the sistine chapel and begin the process. there will be secret ballots, after each ballot...
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there hasn't been an italian pope since before john paul ii, who is polish and then we had our german pope with pope benedict. could it be an african pope, latin pope, a younger pope, and also a pope that could lead the church out of these sex abuse scandals. >> what's the possibility of it being a pope with a bit more diversity? >> it's quite likely. it could happen. but it's always been difficult to predict who the next pope will be. and often times the predictions run afoul. they turn out not to be correct. >> okay. so how does the catholic church -- how does the vatican then shake this bad press? and to move forward, to look for the next pope? >> well, i think that the cardinals who are tasked with the selection of the next pope have a big task. and they will be sequestered in the sistine chapel, and they will, according to the rules, pray and try to select the next pope through prayer, politicking is looked down upon. but before they go into the chapel, they hear two sermons about the future of the church and what the next pope should be attending to. so i'm sure these things wil
there hasn't been an italian pope since before john paul ii, who is polish and then we had our german pope with pope benedict. could it be an african pope, latin pope, a younger pope, and also a pope that could lead the church out of these sex abuse scandals. >> what's the possibility of it being a pope with a bit more diversity? >> it's quite likely. it could happen. but it's always been difficult to predict who the next pope will be. and often times the predictions run afoul. they...
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following the death of john paul he was elected pope back in 2005. he was 78, the oldest person to become pope in almost 300 years. little has been said publicly about his health, which made his resignation even more surprising since he said his strength has deteriorated recently. let's get some more now on the pope's health. our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta, is joining us. sanjay, what do we know about the pope's health as of late? >> well, you know, not much that's new here, wolf. and i think that's part of the reason this came as a surprise to so many people. certainly we know his age, 85 years old, and as a physician there's all sorts of different things that you certainly worry about. cardiovascular disease, diabetes, cancer, stroke. he had a hemorrhage in his brain they think back in 1991 that may have been due to a stroke. but a long time ago, and there was no evidence of anything recently along those lines. he had a fall where he broke his wrist in 2009. and there's been pictures of him where he seems to maybe more increasing
following the death of john paul he was elected pope back in 2005. he was 78, the oldest person to become pope in almost 300 years. little has been said publicly about his health, which made his resignation even more surprising since he said his strength has deteriorated recently. let's get some more now on the pope's health. our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta, is joining us. sanjay, what do we know about the pope's health as of late? >> well, you know, not much that's new...
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6:00 was in not very good shape at all, john paul -- john paul xxiii, and pius, a number of them ended their reigns in ill health. maybe u.s. a better service to the church, one feels one can no longer fulfill his duties as benedict xvi said. perhaps it's better for the church to step down voluntarily. rather than to wait until death. >> back in 1989 and 1994, john paul ii had prepared we know to resign, if, in fact, he had some sort of condition or disease that would keep him from fulfilling his ministry, we have learned that the late pope's the person in charge of his affairs. incredibly unusualnusual. right to dan lothian at the white house. did they have a close relationship. a typical relationship that you would have between a pope and world leader? >> i think it can be described as a respectful relationship, and the two have met, on one time face to face as far as we're aware, and back in 2009, overseas to agana and moscow, met face to face for 25 minutes, talked about billions of dollars in aid to developing countries and much of their discussion, food aid and discussion centere
6:00 was in not very good shape at all, john paul -- john paul xxiii, and pius, a number of them ended their reigns in ill health. maybe u.s. a better service to the church, one feels one can no longer fulfill his duties as benedict xvi said. perhaps it's better for the church to step down voluntarily. rather than to wait until death. >> back in 1989 and 1994, john paul ii had prepared we know to resign, if, in fact, he had some sort of condition or disease that would keep him from...
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that pope john paul ii really needed him and wanted him around and discouraged him from those very thoughts. it is said that he will be leaving that congregation of cloistered nuns in the vatican. there he will pray and probably write. bill. >> bill: amy kellogg, thank you. reportingreporting from rome lie tonight in that fox report. president obama's offering appreciation and prayers for the pope. now he and the first lady have warm memories of their meeting with the holy father in 2009 at the time a spokesman said the pope was very impressed with the president and for his part the president said he looked forward to a very strong relationship between the united states and the vatican. today, the president said in part, quote: the church plays a critical role in the united states and the world and i wish the best of those who will soon gather to choose his holiness pope benedict the xvith successor. house speaker john boehner said the prayers and gratitude of american catholics are with pope benedict xvi today. our team fox coverage continues. "the fox report's" correspondent jonathan hunt
that pope john paul ii really needed him and wanted him around and discouraged him from those very thoughts. it is said that he will be leaving that congregation of cloistered nuns in the vatican. there he will pray and probably write. bill. >> bill: amy kellogg, thank you. reportingreporting from rome lie tonight in that fox report. president obama's offering appreciation and prayers for the pope. now he and the first lady have warm memories of their meeting with the holy father in 2009...
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paul ii. cardinal dolan on benedict's react. >> almost in the beginning he shrugged and said, boy, i don't know if i'm up to this, but with god's grace and mercy, i'll give it my best shot, and he's done well for eight years. >> a man in the full possession of his physical powers is going to be needed. >> reporter: the college of cardinals will choose, a heavy responsibility, said cardinal dolan. >> except for prayer, i don't know what else to do. i'll await instruction along with everybody else. >> reporter: he steps down february 28th. soon after the card landlords will elect the new pope, who will face something new, a living former pope looking over his shoulder. >> and we invite you to stay with us for more reaction to the pope stepping down. at 5:00, a local monsignor, who met the pope, worked at the vatican for four years, will share his thoughts. >>> the mother of that chicago teenager killed two days after performing at president obama's inauguration will have a special seat at tomorr
paul ii. cardinal dolan on benedict's react. >> almost in the beginning he shrugged and said, boy, i don't know if i'm up to this, but with god's grace and mercy, i'll give it my best shot, and he's done well for eight years. >> a man in the full possession of his physical powers is going to be needed. >> reporter: the college of cardinals will choose, a heavy responsibility, said cardinal dolan. >> except for prayer, i don't know what else to do. i'll await instruction...
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pope john paul ii was named at age 58. you may see a person chosen in his 60s. we all knew that in 2005 that phone benedict and his old age already wasn't going to be around for decades and decades. >> the fact that the pope tweets is -- i love that. that's really a recent development. but his last tweet said this, we must trust in the mighty power of god's mercy. we are all sinners. but his grace transforms us and makes us new. am i to read anything into this last tweet about us all being sinners or is this just typical? >> what did he say about the problem of priestly sexual abuse before he became pope? he said we got to get rid of the filth. that was the word he used. these priests who would dare molest anybody. so he was an outspoken man. he knows we're all sinners. the pope himself goes to confession. he understands that. but he also understands most priests are good men and to have their name and their hair damage be smernlged -- >> i can't imagine the person who listens to the pope's confession. what a remarkable thing. bill, thank you for taking the time
pope john paul ii was named at age 58. you may see a person chosen in his 60s. we all knew that in 2005 that phone benedict and his old age already wasn't going to be around for decades and decades. >> the fact that the pope tweets is -- i love that. that's really a recent development. but his last tweet said this, we must trust in the mighty power of god's mercy. we are all sinners. but his grace transforms us and makes us new. am i to read anything into this last tweet about us all...